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    Support or advise for those Quiting smoking?

    My plan for New Years was to quit smoking this year, I have quit in the past and started again, and again. But as this is a very bad health risk, I know. And a very outcast activity all over the world now. I think that at times I was rebeling and defending smoking, then I would say to myself WHY did I say that?My fellow smokers know what I am talking about.If you have never smoked that is awsome, and I understand it must sound foolish to not be able to just quit. And X-smokers are sometimes the worst support and make me want to smoke more. Again the whole rebeling thing. It is a VERY powerful additiction. I like so many others want to quit. I always said I wanted to quit but up until now I can honestly say my heart was not in it and I was not ready. I tried cold turkey with major withdraws and gave up about 11 hours in. I felt like a loser. I have also been in smoking classes and felt like I was at confessional too Weird for me. So this week I went to my doctor and got on the Chantix, I know a drug but I figure I need help and I can feel it working honestly, I am just thirsty alot. It has to be better than the contining smoking. So if anyone has advise or wants to support or be supported, here's a place.

    Peace, love and crafts

    Dena

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    Grab a copy of the book Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking. You continue to smoke while you read the book, as he helps deal with the psychological issues of quitting, and after the book is finished, you stop smoking. He's got a 90% success rate. If you're seriously wanting to quit, check out his book. No withdrawls, no weight gain, no mood swings. I just downloaded a copy last night, so once it's all printed out, I'll be rereading it and finishing it tonight. I figure that you can't go wrong with a 90% success rate, and 6 million copies sold.

    Have an enjoyable quitting experience!

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    I have never smoked, and so I have no advice for you. But I have 110% support for you and your decision.

    I know it's a hard addiction to beat, I have smokers in my family. But I am so pleased and happy for you that you've made this choice.

    You are amazing.

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    Fauxchina: I have heard SO MANY good things about Allen Carr's book. I don't smoke, but my partner does, and SO MANY people have recommended it to him. He has tried time and again to kick the habit, with little success. Deep down, I don't think he's ready to quit yet. I am extremely supportive, but don't want to be overbearing. I don't like to give him a hard time when he picks up the habit again, as I have no idea what his urges are like.

    Good luck, Dena.

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    Elixirbeth, buy a copy of the book, actually, read it yourself too, it's a great book. Maybe if he sees you reading it, he'll be interested in reading it too. It's quitting from the smokers point of view. There's no scare tactics, only 8 or 9 pages that even mention health risks, but not to the extreme that non-smoking propaganda goes. I'm really glad that you're supportive and not overbearing to him. I remember time and time again trying to quit using the patches (substitutes are the worst) and cold turkey (which makes you think that you're depriving yourself which makes craving even worse) and giving in and lighting up again and feeling like such a failure and having my non-smoking friends act as though I was the scum of the earth for not quitting which adds to the stress and makes the cravings even worse.

    Damn, I feel like an infomercial. With one easy payment of the cost of two packs of cigarettes, you too can become a non-smoker. But wait, that's not all! We'll also include good health and an increasing bank balance!

    Check out the reviews for it on Amazon.

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    I think it is very good of you to quit smoking! It is such a hard thing to do. I have quit smoking for 6 months now, and to be honest, I find it avery hard thing to do...

    I loved smoking sooooooooooo much! I smoked about 10 sigarettes a day. I smoked every one them very consciously. I would like to split smokers in 2 groups. The consciously smokers and the non consciously smokers. I have found out that the first group ( where I belonged to) has much more difficulties to quit smoking then the last group. The last group contains most of the time a lot of chain smokers. They were just smoking out of a habbit and needed a lot of them for nicotine in physical way. They experience a lot more physical problems when quitting but the mental aspect is less of a problem. With the first group, the consciously smokers, it is the other way around. Less physical problems but more mental problems. After half a year I find it still very hard and I miss my ten cigarettes every day. But I feel proud I did it and I love the fact that I taste more, have a better smell etc. The advice I can give you is:

    1. Just do it. ( it sounds very simpel but when I had/have difficulties and weak moments this phrase really helped me and it still does)

    2. The first few weeks I had a mind trick. I was wondering why I could easily not smoke for a day during my smoking period and now i craved for one every second. Of course when quitting I knew I could never smoke one again, that is the reason. So I would tell myself or my husband " I really need a sigarette right now, well maybe later this day or tomorrow I can smoke one". Even that I did know that I would not do it It really helped to full my own mind and the need for a sigarette really increased.

    Quiting smoking is so personal so find out you own motivations or tricks.

    Good Luck!!!! You have my suppport! I think it is a very brave thing to do.

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    I just wanted to voice my support for those of you quitting. I know how incredibly difficult it is and I give you a ton of credit for doing something so good for yourself.

    (Full disclosure: I have never been a smoker. I am, however, a health educator who specializes in tobacco use.)

    A lot of what the research tells us about quitting, you guys have already learned through experience.

    First of all, quitting is hard. Really hard. Your friends who don't smoke have no idea how hard. It's not about willpower. It is about addiction. Unsuccessful attempts to quit in the past don't make you a failure. Most smokers try to quit 5+ times before they are ultimately successful. The important thing is to learn what worked and what didn't from your past attempts to make this time the time you quit for good.

    Secondly, the best way to quit is the way that works for you. Former smokers sometimes become evangelists for the program or drug or technique that worked for them. In reality, smokers have a physical dependence to nicotine as well as a behavioral/psychological dependence to deal with. For each smoker, the balance between the physical and the behavioral/psychological needs is different, and so is the best treatment.

    Unfortunately, there are no magic beans for quitting. Nothing works for everyone. The most successful treatments that are lauded by the medical community still only work for about 1/3 of the people who use them (which is why you need to keep trying until you find which one you get to be in the 1/3 for).

    Using medications for quitting don't make you weak. They are the best weapon we have against the physical addiction to nicotine. Nicotine replacement products, Zyban/Wellbutrin and Chantix have all been rigorously studied and work for lots of people. The drug trials for Chantix showed amazing quit rates (just be sure you start taking it a week before you actually quit). The difficulty with any medication is that it only addresses the physical need. You may not have physical withdrawal symptoms, but the behavior stuff (the habit, the de-stress break, the socializing or whatever else you enjoyed about smoking) is all still there for you to deal with.

    The same is true for a support program, or book, or what have you. I have not personally read Allen Carr's book, but from his website, it looks like it addresses a lot of the behavior stuff - all good things. I'll dispute the 90% success rate (there hasn't been a rigorous scientific evaluation of his program published, also see previous statement re: 1/3 - probably a mroe accurate figure), but that doesn't mean it can't be a helpful tool for you. But, program's like this address the behavior stuff, but the physical addiction is still there for you to deal with.

    An option that I do know about and would recommend is www.smokefree.gov or 1-800-QUIT-NOW - this is the government's cessation program. You can call or IM tobacco treatment specialists who can offer information and encouragement. They can help you put together the combination of things that will work best for you.

    And, please feel free to PM me if you have questions or need a cheerleader or I can otherwise be of any help. Sorry for the incredibly long-winded response. But I get pretty worked up about this stuff (Sarah sheepishly picks up soap box and tries to hide it behind her back).

    Beyond that, hang in there guys! I know you can do it.

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    natural help

    Congrats on making the decision to quit! While your will of course is the best asset to you right now, here are some ideas to help:


    CATNIP
    I know that sounds weird, but it is an anti-spasmadic and calming herb that will help you if yuo are feeling anxious. It has been used often to nictotine withdrawl but don't take it if you are pregnant as it promotes menstruation (great for cramps though!)

    For human consumption internally, make an infusion with 1teaspoon Catnip to 1 cup of water, drink up to three cups a day. A tincture can be taken 1/2 to 1 teaspoon a day.


    Vitamin B-12, Ginger and Ginseng
    If quitting is making you feel drained, be nice to your body with good vitamins and perhaps one or more of the above stimulants. Excercise, get enough sleep, drink a lot of water. :)

    Good for you!
    Anjanette

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    I had my last cigarette on Monday evening, and so far it's been very enjoyable. Last night at around the 24 hour mark I had a little empty feeling, but that was it, and I've made sure not to substitute with food or anything, because I know I'm not giving anything up. The only thing is that I notice my boredom more now, as before I'd sit and smoke and be bored and it wouldn't bother me as much, but it's giving me a chance to get my housework all caught up, so that's a big plus.

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    Awsome Fauxchina! My day is Thursday!! I hope I do as well! I am rally impressed Craftfedish you had a very accurate discription of a smoker for being as non- smoker! You must be awsome at your job! and Leonie I totally agree with you I LOOOOOOVE smoking too but I have to tell myself it is bad!! Definatly a mental war right now! Wish me and Fauxchina luck! Thanks for everone's support! much appreciated!


 
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