Fahrenheit 9/11

[LolitaContrer]

I like MM and hate hate hate BUSH. I fall into the "anyone but" catagory. in a perfect world Kucinich would be great. Did anyone else happen to be on the MoveOn webcast with Michael Moore a few weeks ago? He had some great ideas on what we can do now. The one I liked the most was find 5 people that you know who are either not registered to vote, or are normally non-voters, and work to get them to the polls in November. Not just driving them there, but helping them make an informed voting decision. I'm really going to try a do this, and I am also going to try and organize a voter registration drive here st the university I work at. what are some of the ways you plan on encouraging people to vote??
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[soapandwater]

You know, I completely ignored Kucinich this whole time, until I took some test finding out I matched up with him, followed by Kerry... I find this to be very odd.

Is Michael Moore voting for Kerry? Does anyone know? Or is he voting for Nader?
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[LolitaContrer]

I think he's voting for Kerry. When he was on that web conference he told a story of how he showed the movie to a college class somewhere and they were just infuriated, and then at the end he asked "now who out of you will be voting for Nader" nad he said a significant amount of them still raised their hands. He said they were very idealisitc and he wondered why after seeing and understanding how improtant it is to end 'this man's' current reign of terror that the would still vote green. I think it would be a great option in a perfect world, but I'm of the strong opinion that if you are in a swing state, voters should not vote green to avoid splintering of the vote. And non-swing state voters should vote green if they so desire. If the last election had not been splintered in so many swing states I don't think we would be having this issue. I'm in Texas, but I am still gonna vote Kerry in the non-existant hope that there might be enough like minded folk to make the state go to Kerry. How great would it be for 'that man' to lose his own state. Ahhh...a pipe dream;-)
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[sincerelyme]

I hope I haven't already posted a reply to this. If I have, we'll just call it early on-set dementia.

I saw f 9/11 on opening night in a mostly Republican County in Kansas. I was pleased to see the turn-out. It was sold out. In line, I heard several people say something along the lines of, "See? We're not alone".

The audience was very supportive of Moore's message and applauded several times. I started getting choked up right at the start when he showed Gore and supporters celebrating the "win". Depressed, is more like it.

I cried throughout most of the film and laughed weakly during the funny parts. I would have laughed more loudly, except that I was really depressed about all of the other parts of the movie.

During the extended filming of the Iraqui woman whose house had been bombed, I flashed on Average Middle American woman. She could be saying the same things. There was so little difference between the two. We never get to see this much of one woman's outrage and grief on the nightly news. We get soundbites and photo bits. I was honored to be able to see more of what she had to say.

I support Moore and I appreciate his antics. I wince when he doesn't do his homework, but for the most part, I think he does.

I hope the Bush Administration crashes and burns in November. I think it's already begun.
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"It's better to know some of the questions than all of the answers." - James Thurber

[girlwearglasses]

In the subscribers' comments in Entertainment Weekly and this one person wrote about how a new filmmaker, Michael Wilson, made a documentary called Michael Moore Hates America, and it's trying to make its way into the theaters. Just a note on that.

Anyway,

Read these links, QUESTION everything you see and hear. Yes, the movie is extremely persuasive, but what are the facts?

Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 911
Richard Bushnells 'Bowling for Truth' - The Distortions in BFC
Moore's own source says F911 is Wrong
Michael Moore is all for the little people, right? Look what he says about small business.

(after reading A Man of Faith by David Aikman - though David Aikman is not a Christian)
Bush was a tobacco chewer, smoker, drinker, he was actually very cocky and impatient as he appears today, but he quit all that and has definitely changed as a person. Through series of meeting people and events, he became a true converted Christian who actually walks the walk daily as evidenced by his stance on issues that cause almost all of America to fiercly hate him. I used to dislike Bush because everyone else did, because of today's liberal media, even because of his "smirk". I disliked him without knowing ONE SINGLE FACT about him. Fact, not opinion.

As for Farenheit 911, Michael Moore is making money off of your emotionalism and dragging you by your puppet strings to believe in what is mostly balderdash.

A person's choice of words is a reflection of what's going on inside, his character, integrity, heart. Keep that in mind.

[brdgt]

[soapandwater]

I'm fairly critical of Michael Moore, but I still know why the film moved me. It was not any implication of profiting off of a war, which I find to be normal for business, as well as saddening. I was moved by how war tears human lives apart. And I had no opinion on the war until I did research on it, as well as listening to gut instinct.

I don't think Moore did anything genius with the film, but a lot of people were affected by it. The fact that he may lie a little is nothing compared to what we go through all the time with certain more damaging lies.

Weapons of mass destruction anyone?
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[achin.to.be]

[sincerelyme]

...And since when is making money on a movie a bad thing? Most documentaries don't make a lot of money. Good for him that his does. Thanks to Disney and the Bush Admin. for that.

I don't know about you, but when I go to a movie, I'm not under the impression that no one is making money on it. Even if I get emotional while I watch it.
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[LolitaContrer]

achin.to.be said

[achin.to.be]

[Sprout]

I noticed most of you are American, and I wanted to let you know about one Canadian girl's opinion.

I think it's GREAT that you are all seeing this film, and to hear that even some who are sceptical are seeing it as well. Us canucks sometimes wonder what the media is feeding the American people (see bowling for columbine).

F 9/11 made me more conciouse as a Canadian what Americans think of Bush and his maniac ways. Canadians almost generalize and think that all Americans must think that way, after all, he got into office right? OPened my eyes a bit wider.

I also just want to mention that Moore is an extremist....even though I agree with most of his ways, he can go pretty far. But what would the world be like if we didn't have these people puching the envelope? Just think of Malcome X or Ghandi or any other human rights activist?

And to add a comparison to moore's movie...Canada just had a federal election, and it was interesting to see who voted where. For the most part the city dwelling folks voted Liberal. Most of the Conservative votes came from small towns/rural communities. So Canada isn't too far off from the USA...

I think this movie proved that you cannot trust what you hear or see on TV and that you should try your hardest to keep an open mind. That's what I got out of this film.

Peace

[model7299]

I think the way Bush was portrayed throughout the movie was wonderful and completely acurate. Bush is a complete idiot. And to think that he thought he'd get away with having his little "affair" with Osama! Seriously, we knew that Osama's family had been investin in all of Bush's opportunities. And to think that Bush is the asshole that sent our friends, family, and other young people into Afghanistan and Iraq for nothing. The dumbshit knew that they would be fighting over there for nothing. Maybe we should send over his little princess, what do you say?

I just had to add: I'm also a Canadian girl living in the US.
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[quixotic]

just wanted to post again on this topic now that i've seen this movie.

it pissed me off in two ways.

the good way: although i didn't learn anything earth-shattering and new, i was reminded of how just how frustrated i feel with america's current political state. not to mention the fact that i don't agree with the war.

the bad way: i think that the film has the direct tendency to look like 'left-wing propaganda' for those who support bush. this could have been avoided, i believe, if it had been presented in a less sentimental format.


i, for one, am glad to be back in the uk after two weeks in the u.s. i dislike the world of politics for the way it tends to get heated and angry and the way battlelines get drawn. i was dishearted almost daily between people in both political camps as they called people in the other camp horrible things. it was like being on a 4th grade playground only with adults up into their 80s.

i will speak about my political beliefs, but not when things get heated and people start mudslinging. i think that whatever opinion you come to is okay as long as you are educated about it.

do i agree with bush? no. but i think that's the beauty of democracy (whether or not you believe it works), that we have a choice of candidates. and i sure as hell think it's f*cking amazing that in theatres next to 'shrek 2' and 'white chicks' we have a documentary analyzing/criticizing the current president of the country.

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betsy
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[geek_chick]

Bear with me, I think that this might be a little long. I personally thought that the movie was amazing. I knew going in that it would be biased, and perhaps some of the information would be exagerrated to make Moore's point, but it moved me nonetheless. The main reason that it moved me so much is because my father was in the military, and he fought in Desert Storm, as well as being involved in many other missions that were quite dangerous. So when I say that I am against the war, it is because I have been in the position that families are in today, wondering whether or not my father would come home safely. Moore's movie just reinforced my emotions regarding the administration and the war when it showed the mother who had lost her son in Iraq. I understand that military action is necessary at times, but I do not believe it was necessary in this case.

I guess I am going to go off the subject just a little. While I don't hate Bush (because that is too strong of a word), I do dislike him, I dislike him for the way he brings his religion into the government. I realize that religion is important in many people's lives, but I have made the decision that I do not like many of the ideas and beliefs associated with many of todays religions. (I went to church for 14 years, so it is not as if I have no experience) So, I do not believe it is fair for the government to enact laws because of a faith not everyone adheres to. I know that may draw some critisicm, but it is what I believe in. I especially agree with the several others who have brought up the fact that as much faith as he has, he has no problem executing people.

So to end (finally I know), I just think that it is amazing that a movie so critical of our government can be such a success. That is what this country was based on.